What year for steel strings on 0 and 00 slotheads?
I have seen a lot of talk over the years about when steel strings came into use. I know that some models were as early as 1923. Is there a resource that clearly states what year (or better yet serial...
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Willi, what were the dimensions of the T-Bar stock that martin used? Was all T-Bar stock the same? How far down the neck did it go?Thanks,John
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Willi-Quote:prefer the T-bar and T-frets even at the small mid '30s 12 fret Martins. The neck is somewhat more solid and heavier what seems to work well together with higher tension stringsright......
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Many questions.Quote:Didn't some post-'34 Martin Hawaiian models have bar frets? Correct, David. All Hawaiians had flush filed bar frets, that's correct. Insofar I must be wrong concerning obtaining...
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Thanks Willi!I'm considering using a similiar T-Bar in a 14 fret OO that I'm working on. For the most part, I'm going for a pre-war style, best as I can. Do you think T-Bar would be a better choice...
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John,I do like several different neck constructions. Amoung them the bar fret / ebony rod and the later T-fret/bar construction as well as Larsons and Gibson necks. I do not like modern U style...
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we have heard people talking about some martins being "light as a feather" (and therefore being especially responsive) compared to other examples of the same model. does this actually show on the...
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Willi,I'm mostly using old school techniques in the guitar I'm building so I ruled out carbon fiber. I was considering a two way adjustable rod that I got from LMI some time ago but I could easily be...
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Martin glued the tee bars with hide glue.I will have to differ with Willi on the stiffness of a rolled steel tee bar. Rolling will increase the strength and hardness of the steel, but it won't change...
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Quote:Rolling will increase the strength and hardness of the steel, but it won't change the stiffnessTechnical qualities and attributes of rolled steel:John,you may be right. Probably both, my English...
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I'm am amazed that cold rolling and/or heat treating steel effects strength and hardness but not stiffness. From what I could find out online it is true.Here's some material constants I found on line...
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First of all I am amazed at the diversity of topics this thread I started asking about what year for steel has generated.Onn the current issue I have to wonder how much the difference between one...
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Quote:I would rather think this includes the strength that is used to bend a material (either including remaining deformation or not) in between a special range of energy or power.You are combining...
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More data for the ebony bar.The following do not have the ebony neck reinforcement:1927 000-18H 32809 1927 000-18 34001 1928 0-42 35351The 000-18H has been strung with medium strings for 11+ years,...
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Quote:The (1927) 000-18 is a much lighter braced guitar I can add that I know a 1926 000-18 that is braced for normal steel string dimensions in height and width. Actually the same pattern as I found...
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Quote:I'm talking about the energy or force that is needed to bend the T in the range that is relevant for a guitar's neck. Permanently deformation is not interesting.Then we are only talking about...
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What impact does the steel bar have, if any, on sound transmission? I am assuming that the vibrations on an open string would be equally transmitted to the saddle and the nut and the neck along with...
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Quote:Is the steel an important part of the sound beyond it's task of providing strenth and stability to the neck? Considering that there are several well working neck constructions and many relevant...
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John and Willi, thanks for the T-Bar help.I took a hacksaw and dremel to an old sled and came up with a fairly decent looking bar. Like John said, with all the rust and paint gone it's a bit smaller...
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John,If you don't mind I'd be interested to learn more about this hot rolled T-bar online places. I couldn't find from here - or possibly I've talked to the wrong people? Willi
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